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What it feels like ... to be duped by Ali G

July 30, 2004 6:18 PM

I've always wondered what it must feel like to get duped by Ali G. Well now, thanks to James Broadwater, I know.


I was lied to and told that a reporter from Kazakhstan wanted to interview people running for office in America. ... I, as well as others, were excited about being able to share with people in other countries not only about the American political system, but also about Jesus Christ, the Lord of everything and the Savior of the World.
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Several people have expressed concern over my statement that Jews will go to Hell. That was direct response to a direct set of questions about who God will let into Heaven. John 3:16-18 clearly states, as do many other Bible passages, that everyone who accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior will spend eternity in Heaven, while everyone who rejects Him will spend eternity in Hell, because he has rejected the Only Begotten Son of God.
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And, by the way, I seek to bless the Jews (please see Genesis 12:3), and for some time I have had a logo on my website which says, "I am a proud friend of Israel." And I always will be.
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The Bible says, "Silence the mocker and strife will cease," and this stunt pulled by HBO is just one more reason why I believe that the liberal, anti-God media needs to be brought under the strict control of the FCC, and that as soon as possible.

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Read the 7 comments.

Avery:

I had to read the last paragraph a few times to work out if there was any special irony attached. Free speech is over-rated apparently. Take a look at brainsnap.com - looks like they'll be first against the wall ...

Sat Jul 31 2004 11:10 AM


Bone:

That is whack.

Have you ever thought about the possibility that religion is what divides people and that religion was at the heart of most of the great wars of our time?

Don't you think that everyone just needs to chill out?

Religion was designed to pacify fearful people. If you get something out of your respective religion, and it makes you a better person, then by all means stick with it. If it imposes limits that you'd rather not be restricted by, then join the rest of us and think twice about the big picture.

How many different religions are there? Are you so egocentric to think that it is you who must be right? Your religion?

Look back on what fools human beings have been throughout time. For example, the holocaust....the world being flat .....bell bottoms, whatever. The FCC is a tool of the government and propaganda in the same way that advertising is.

Everyone's selling something. Who are you buying from? Jesus? FOX News? The 'administration'? Who? I'm confused.

Have you ever thought about the possibility of controlling yourself? Be good. Vote Kerry. Get over yourself. Hopefully the rest of this country will too. See the world.

Sat Jul 31 2004 3:13 PM


Avery:

The lunatic fringe argument doesn't automatically disqualify a whole section of the community. There are fruitcakes everyone.
Getting rid of religion doesn't necessarily solve any problems. Actually religions frequently provide a good ethical structure for people and prevent a lot of needless suffering. The variation in religions don't necessarily disqualify each from each other.
I'm not religious, went to church once when dragged there. But I see it doing good everywhere. Want to know what destroys humanity?
Patriotism, nationalism. "My country is better than yours. My people are more enlightened and deserving than yours. Our flag is important, we are superior and noble, you are not." You heard variations of this anywhere? Most of the religions are holding communities together like glue. People don't go to war for God. They go there for their country. 18 year olds get themselves maimed and shot to pieces and murder other 18 year olds because some old bastards told them that they had to protect their country. Patriotism. Nationalism. I vote for 'we start seeing each other as people, not nationalities'. Then the old bastards have to find another reason to get 18 year olds to kill each other.

Sat Jul 31 2004 10:51 PM


Bone:

I agree with everything that you wrote. As we all know, it is a very complicated issue, and a complicated time in our history. As I mentioned, religion is fine if it makes people 'good people'. Where the line blurs is when 'patriotic', 'nationalist' leaders feel like they are ON A MISSION FROM GOD. The line blurs, indeed. I feel that Bush has snorted too much coke and not smoked nearly enough weed. All we can do is ..,.....vote.

Sun Aug 1 2004 10:15 PM


AthenaD:

This has opened my favorite can of worms…

Body, Mind, Sprit…can anyone of these common human elements be arguably denied an existence…

Have you ever thought about the possibility that religion is direct evidence of a very human need to survive as a spiritual being?
Spirituality and religion being the effect, the desire or need to nurture our “souls” the cause. We seek to better our minds our intellects our bodies through psychology, philosophy and science and all in turn become shared cultural experience.

Bone said
“How many different religions are there? Are you so egocentric to think that it is you who must be right? Your religion? “


How about the possibility they are all right? Most if not all spiritual practices and religions I have poked my nose into promote tolerence and acceptance of others. With a great deal of value being placed on an individuals capacity to help themselves and others survive.

Hell even our man JB said this just before he turned the other cheek in his last paragraph.
“I believe that people can disagree without being mean-spirited and hateful, much less insulting and threatening.”

B.
“The FCC is a tool of the government and propaganda in the same way that advertising is. “

Everthing! is propaganda silly rabbit! ”Publish or perish” was a slogan of the Dadaist art movement they understood that if you don’t put you ideas out there,they will die. Anything with an agenda is propaganda, so it’s up to you to decide on your own agenda, what propaganda train are you getting on?


“Everyone's selling something. Who are you buying from? Jesus? FOX News? The 'administration'? Who? I'm confused.”

Everyone selling something has got their own agenda(s) some are more transparent than others but track records tend to speak for themselves. As for my own agenda I want to “buy in to” attitudes and products that have a track record of working for the greatest good for the greatest number of humans involved. Just off the top of my head I can give you a list as long as my arm of offenders of this basic premise. There are many agendas contributing to cultural and ecological destruction that is difficult at times to live with out some of these products and attitudes, petroleum consumption (especially in plastics and textiles) being a glaring example of this.


B.
“Have you ever thought about the possibility of controlling yourself? Be good. Vote Kerry. Get over yourself. Hopefully the rest of this country will too. See the world.”


Here you have just paraphrased one the world’s great spiritual leaders.
“Be the solution you seek”
Gandhi

Avery Said
Want to know what destroys humanity?
Patriotism, nationalism. "My country is better than yours. My people are more enlightened and deserving than yours. Our flag is important, we are superior and noble, you are not." You heard variations of this anywhere? Most of the religions are holding communities together like glue.

Here here! PRIDE is the lynch pin in patriotism and nationalism, it is easily corrupted and requires making others wrong in order to be right. Just a small step up from pride though, is willingness and with willingness a lot can be accomplished. Willingness is an attitude fostered within community and culture by the strengthening of common ethical and moral practices (a.k.a. spiritual or religious values). By evolving and exploring our understanding and practice of spiritual and religious ideals we at least give ourselves a much better chance of not collapsing our world culture or destroying humanity as it were.


B.
“I feel that Bush has snorted too much coke and not smoked nearly enough weed.”


This made me laugh out loud! Since Bush ’s “War on Drugs” I have called coke, speed and pharmaceuticals (the stuff that makes rich assholes even richer and the poor they steal their wealth from even easier to control) I call these kinds of drugs “Republican Drugs”

B.
“ All we can do is ..,.....vote.”

Aww common you can do more than that. You seem really bright; pick some more agendas to make you own. Advocate the industrial and ecological use of HEMP as a renewable source of clean burning combustible fuel, biodegradable machine oils, paper products and textiles. Then stop buying in to the shit that doesn’t biodegrade, or uses chemicals in place of simple effective ingredients that are harmless. Stop eating fast food, throw out your TV, don’t use republican drugs, pick one. Don’t wait for the world to tell you what you need to live, demand it from yourself and set the example for others.


“If you can’t set a good example you will serve as a horrible warning.”

Propaganda for the Army of Love
Coming soon to a cultural identity near you


XoS.
AthenaD

Mon Aug 2 2004 1:41 PM


Bone:

I love how a story about Ali G can bring about such a spirited discourse. Thank you Sacha!

Okay, okay.....indeed, the LEAST we can do is vote.....On top of that ....personally, I've made some changes in the past few years along the lines of consumption. Thanks to my wife, I haven't eaten fast food in 3 years. I also haven't smoked a cigarette in almost a year. I don't drink soda anymore, and barely drink beer. (I haven't made much progress on the weed and wine, but nobody's perfect, right?).

I've got a Tivo, so I don't watch many television commercials...but I don't think that I'm going to be throwing away my tv anytime soon. You see, I work as a producer of television commercials.

As far as "being the solution I seek" is concerned, I guess I will have achieved that in a small sense once I can make a living doing art, and not advertising (big difference).

"If you can't beat the man, you have to be the man" ... is my philosophy.

Now that I'm established in the world of film/video production, I'm hoping to make a difference in my own way, similar towhat Jim Gilliam is doing. I work in advertising to make money to support my artistic endeavors. When I can make a living in film/video without working on advertising, then I've achieved my goal.

Choo! Choo! The propaganda train that I'm getting on is my own....my videos, short films, music videos, tv pilots, etc.

I feel that we are all actors......that we are all acting. If you're selling something, you're acting, and as you mentioned, we're all selling something.....It's just that some of us know it, and others don't. Some of us are b-grade actors, and some are Oscar winners in our own right. Others are more 're'-actors, but they're still acting whether they know it or not.

I'd rather be an actor. I'd rather create my own agenda and 'publish or perish' as you say.

No matter what your agenda is, you have to entice people to listen to you in the first place.....get them in the seats, get them to turn the channe...... Hmmm..... almost like advertising.....hmmm. Once you do that, you can try to persuade the audience to think differently, or at least listen to your views.

If we can entertain while educating, and blur those lines as well as guys like Michael Moore, South Park, or Ali G. then we've succeeded as artists.

Wed Aug 4 2004 12:54 PM


AthenaD:

Well all I have to say to that is FUCK Yeah!

I have been thinking alot about walking ones talk since that last post.....shure is easier to say it....

xoAD.

Thu Aug 5 2004 8:49 PM


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