From Jim Gilliam's blog archives
Bush = Nixon
September 28, 2004 9:26 PM
Saw this bumper sticker today:
Bush = Nixon
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Read the 17 comments.
As I've said in the past I'm not a Dem or Rep, but I'd like to put a sign in my yard that offers people thought since my neighbors are all gearing up their bush signs and its making my skin crawl.
Anyone have a site pro-thought site that sells bumper stickers &/or a yard sign?
Wed Sep 29 2004 6:14 AM
What did you see it on - a 1960 Chrysler?
This is "brilliant" ....why?
Wed Sep 29 2004 8:26 AM
It was on a recent car, and the sticker was brand new.
I interpreted it as a clever way to insinuate Bush is as bad as Nixon, and that JFK will win.
Wed Sep 29 2004 9:18 AM
And do what, lead us into another Vietnam? Nuclear confrontation with an North Korea? Make the dead vote in Chicago? Bug the offices of NAACP leaders? Support the overthrow of a hostile nation until the first shot is fired and run like a scared little girl leaving your "friends" to die? Open the White House up for sexcapades with loose drug addicted actresses? It'd be an interesting four years.
If JFK hadn't gotten himself killed he'd probably been a one and out like Bush Sr or Carter, with about as much legacy.
Wed Sep 29 2004 9:53 AM
Right Wing Robby:
I think the sticker shows the person is sick of the current process, doesnt like Bush or Kerry and likes Kennedy better then both of them.
In short, I see it both Anti-Bush and Anti-Kerry.
P.S. The website address on the bottom makes it clear its a new sticker.
Wed Sep 29 2004 10:00 AM
I just went to the web site, and actually it's pretty interesting. It's a compilation of information about all the Presidential campaigns from 1960 to the present. They've got bumper stickers, campaign signs, and even campaign commercials from the 1950s to the present. It appears to just be educational, not partisan in any way.
So who knows what the thoughts are of the person whose bumper sticker Jim saw. Maybe they think Bush is as bad as Nixon, maybe they are disgusted by the 2004 election, or maybe they just dig Kennedy & Johnson. Perhaps they just enjoy the web site and are promoting it. Anyway, I just checked it out briefly, but it looks like they've got a ton of good information compiled there.
Wed Sep 29 2004 12:56 PM
Tom from Madison:
What makes you think Kennedy would not have been re-elected?
Was Barry Goldwater going to beat him?
During this time, the Civil Rights movement was just starting to gain traction. Most Republicans and some Democrats were resisting the US Supreme Court. While Kennedy could have done more, there were very few Republicans willing to stick their necks out to give Black people access to the polls. It's shameful that Floridians are still fighting over this.
Wed Sep 29 2004 2:08 PM
Check your history books. The only reason the Civil Rights act passed was due to Republican support. Democrats fought it tooth and nail and many looked at Johnson as a traitor to his party for pushing it. Many more Republicans voted for it then democrats. The stong democratic Old South where determined to enforce the Jim Crow laws still on the books. The Wallace and Thurmond candidacies were the result of copperhead democrats fighting old south democrats.
Who said Goldwater would have been the Republican candidate against Kennedy? A weakened Kennedy running for president (makes the current Bush issues look small in comparison) would have tempted stronger republican candidates (Nixon or Reagan in '64?).
Wed Sep 29 2004 2:39 PM
The Congressional Quarterly of June 26, 1964 (p. 1323) recorded that, in the Senate, only 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act as compared to 82% of Republicans (27 for, 6 against). All southern Democratic senators voted against the Act. This includes the current senator from West Virginia and former KKK member Robert C. Bryd and former Tennessee senator Al Gore, Sr.
Wed Sep 29 2004 3:05 PM
Tom from Madison:
There were certainly great men on the Republican side like Dirksen from Illinois who supported the Civil Rights Act. Then again there was Barry Goldwater leading the opposition & representing the forces of ignorance.
There were also racist Democrats who opposed it, like TRENT LOTT and STROM THURMOND! These racists ultimately found a home in the Republican Party--kind of like ZELL MILLER.
As for Nixon winning the 1964 election--VERY HARD TO BELIEVE! He was backing Goldwater, not running. Reagan himself was not yet even governor of California. Neither could have been nominated in 1964.
What does your history book say?
Thu Sep 30 2004 10:25 AM
The true racist stayed with the democrat party - Such as Mr Byrd. Thurmond became a Republican and with that his 180 change concerning civil rights. He is widely credited with, in 1971, becoming the first senator in the South to appoint a black aide to his staff. In 1982, he supported extending the Voting Rights Act. In 1983, he helped preserve the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, and he backed a national holiday to mark the birthday of Martin Luther King.
For all the talk of JFK being for civil rights he stood on the ney side of the isle with every single democrat and voted against the 1957 Civil Right Act that was being pushed by Eisenhower. His concern for equality at that point was out weighed by his presidential aspirations.
Kennedy also condemned the Freedom Riders for their lack of patriotism (not exactly a Bush only tactic) at a time of international tension over the Berlin Wall, Cuba and the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
Under his administration the justice department, through 57 law suits against local officials, helped end obstruction of black voter registration. Local officials from Louisiana were threatened with prison for contempt when they refused to hand over money to newly desegregated schools.
Thu Sep 30 2004 11:23 AM
By the way, Trent Lott was NOT A SENATOR in 1964, he would have been only 23.
Thu Sep 30 2004 11:28 AM
Your revisionism is truly off base.
No, Trent Lott wasn't yet a Senator in 1964. However he has been a staunch opponent of civil rights ever since he was elected Senator. He has frequently appealed to the worst racist attitudes of his constituents. His tribute to Strom Thurmond's 1948 Presidential run is a case in point:
When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we [in Mississippi] voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either.
The Bay of Pigs was Ike's idea, Kennedy foolishly went along early in his administration.
Yes Kennedy was late in helping the cause of Civil Rights, but he & Bobby ultimately helped the cause more than any of the Republicans you named.
Citing Kennedy's initial discouragement of the freedom riders is really quite a mis-representation. Ultimately President Kennedy had Atty General Bobby Kennedy take care of business and come to the aid of the MLK and the Riders.
Strom Thurmond's appointments of Blacks came very late. It was his only hope to stay elected. Senator Byrd followed a similar path. The difference is Byrd didn't really fit as a Democrat. Thurmond fit perfectly as a Republican.
Thu Sep 30 2004 12:11 PM
Tom from Madison:
The last post is mine!
Thu Sep 30 2004 12:12 PM
The Bay of Pigs was Ike's idea? Probably, but the fiasco part of it was pure JFK. About as much of a streatch as claiming the Iraq invasion was Bill Clinton's idea and screwed it up.
Let's see how many open racist are in the democrat party? How about a few head liners:
Rep. Corrine Brown, D-Fla.: during a recent congressional hearing, for declaring the Bush policy toward Haiti "racist" and complaining that the hearing's administration officials were "a bunch of white men." When Assistant Secretary of State Roger Noriega, a Mexican-American, protested being called "white" and "racist," Brown snapped, "You all look alike to me."
Or take DNC Keynote speaker Al Sharpton. He was a co-perpetrator of the Tawana Brawley rape hoax. He also helped inflame a dispute between a Jewish storeowner and a black tenant. Protesters from Sharpton's National Action Network, joined by Sharpton himself, screamed about "bloodsucking Jews" and "Jew bastards," and threatened to burn down the building. Eventually, one of the protesters ran into the building, shot three people and ignited a fire than left seven dead. Sharpton's role is forgotten and now he is a "civil rights leader."
Then there was New York City Councilman Charles Barron who said, addressing a 2002 Washington, D.C., reparations gathering, "I want to go up to the closest white person and say, 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing,' and then slap him, just for my mental health."
Then there's the liberal California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, who while giving a Black History Month speech used the word "nigger." He claimed it was a slip of the tongue and got off the hook.
Sen. Robert "former Klansman" Byrd used the term nigger in a Fox News interview.
His Senate colleague Democrat Ernest Hollings told reporters in December 1993 that he attended international summits alongside "these potentates from down in Africa." He added, "Rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
(Affect(ing) a black accent to recount San Francisco mayor Willie Brown asking) "Who is this "Emily List? She's supportin' all these people. She's supportin' Sen. Dianne Feinstein. She's supported Sen. Barbara Boxer....She supported everybody. Why won't she support me?" -- Hillary Clinton. Source: John Broder of the LA Times
"Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him." -- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape
"Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?" -- Song from the show of left-wing radio host Neil Rogers
Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write." -- Mike Wallace, CBS News
"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book, "Inside The White House"
(On New York) "K*ketown." -- Harry Truman in a personal letter
"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a nigger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America." Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess
"You f*cking Jew b@stard." -- Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in "State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton" and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses.
"The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes." -- Louis Farrakhan (1984) who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002
"Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under his holy and righteous name." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, 1984
'Hymies.' 'Hymietown.' -- Jesse Jackson's (another DNC key not speaker) description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.
"Jews that's J-E-W-S." -- Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002
I don't think you really want to keep this can of worms around do you?
Thu Sep 30 2004 1:45 PM
Tom from Madison:
You make a lot of silly points--this is really a very serious issue. I hope you'll stop laughing long enough to deal with the reality of VOTER REGISTRATION. Yes there are racist democrats and racists of every race. However, those who would take votes away from other citizens are much more at home in the Republican Party.
The Florida State government is full of them from the Governor's office to the Secretary of State. 90,000 people, mostly Blacks, were denied the opportunity to vote in Florida in 2000 by Jeb Bush's political machine. The Republican party rewarded Katherine Harris, the previous secretary of state, with a Congressional Seat. Jeb is pulling the same stuff again. It's wrong, that's all. Anyone who can't see that is blind to a terrible injustice.
...if you want some real racist & anti-semitic language, how about some of Richard Nixon's tapes. Plenty of durogatory references to Jews. Or maybe you prefer Rush Limbaugh's infamous request asking a self-identified Black caller to "take the bone out of his nose." Rush doesn't say those words to appeal to Democrats.
The most revealing statistic is party affiliation. There are very few Black Republicans because they simply are not important to the Republican party. This isn't funny. It's sad.
Thu Sep 30 2004 9:02 PM
The point has been made many places that Bush is working in the tradition of the Jacksonian Democrats, and Kennedy was considered one of these, if not the last. Perhaps the intent of the bumper sticker is not so clear, and we shouldn't assume anything. I wish Bensten or someone would let Kerry know that he is no JFK.
Mon Oct 4 2004 5:34 PM