From Jim Gilliam's blog archives
October 1, 2004 5:35 PM
A reader alerted me to the latest FNC embarassment courtesy of Josh Marshall.
Fox News Senior Campaign Correspondent Carl Cameron, made famous in a scene from Outfoxed where he was caught sucking up to George W on the campaign trail, "accidentally" got this "partial script that had been written in jest" posted on FNC's homepage last night:
Rallying supporters in Tampa Friday, Kerry played up his performance in Thursday night's debate, in which many observers agreed the Massachusetts senator outperformed the president.
"Didn't my nails and cuticles look great? What a good debate!" Kerry said Friday.
With the foreign-policy debate in the history books, Kerry hopes to keep the pressure on and the sense of traction going.
Aides say he will step up attacks on the president in the next few days, and pivot somewhat to the domestic agenda, with a focus on women and abortion rights.
"It's about the Supreme Court. Women should like me! I do manicures," Kerry said.
Kerry still trails in actual horse-race polls, but aides say his performance was strong enough to rally his base and further appeal to voters ready for a change.
"I'm metrosexual -- he's a cowboy," the Democratic candidate said of himself and his opponent.
A "metrosexual" is defined as an urbane male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.
FOXNews.com "regret[s] the error
, which occurred because of faiture and bad judgment, not malice."
Not that there's anything wrong with manicures, of course.
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Read the 16 comments.
Right Wing Robby:
Jim Carville is works for the Kerry Campaign and is paid by CNN. Why no outrage over that connection Jim? I think I can figure it out.
Fox News, on a very big news night destroyed the competition. Here are the viewers.
Its not even close. Whats going on here is nothing short of a media revolution. Given the fact that the country is basically divided 50/50% and looking at FNC ratings, it is clear that both Democrats and Republicans are watching Fox News and trust the FNC.
The facts dont support your opinion or your cut and paste movie. FNC caters to all viewers. Cased closed.
Fri Oct 1 2004 5:55 PM
"cut and paste movie" hahahah Dude, EVERY movie is cut and paste. It's called editing. If you want to watch an unedited movie about FNC, turn on your TV.
"it is clear that both Democrats and Republicans are watching Fox News" -- Yes. -- "and trust the FNC" hahaha. Dems watch FNC because it's a trainwreck. I do it all the time. If you want to know what's going on in the world, don't watch cable news.
I think FNC should air "Outfoxed" ... it would be huge for their ratings, and we've already given them permission. Plus they owe us for all the publicity.
Fri Oct 1 2004 6:14 PM
As for Carville... At least he's honest about it. When you watch him, you know he's working for Kerry. That's the reason to watch him, he's the big shot Democratic strategist.
But Cameron is different. He pretends to cover the campaign trail unbiased.
Again, there's nothing wrong with bias, just be upfront about it.
Fri Oct 1 2004 6:19 PM
I don't watch Fox News, but I sometimes tune into Rush Limbaugh, just so I can get the original version of the talking points which I'm going to hear later on from people like wrong wing.
Incidentally, wrong wing, did you just pull those numbers out of thin air?
Fri Oct 1 2004 6:22 PM
Right Wing Robby:
What should I watch, CBS?
You can cut and paste my words to be pro Kerry. Calling it a documentary doesnt make it so.
Politics aside Jim, you should be proud of out-foxed. You made it on FNC's radar. But the spin is a little much for me. The two new movies coming out Celcius and Fahrenhype(hosted by Dick Morris who I find very interesting.) are the same. Total misrepresentation.
When you start to put peoples faces in a movie and misrepresent their actualy beliefs, I think you head down a dark road regardless of its legality.
Fri Oct 1 2004 6:40 PM
There's no substance to your charges. Please point out specific instances where Outfoxed misrepresented the facts or keep quiet about it. It's really disgusting for you to falsely attack someone else's work like this.
If you haven't watched Outfoxed, then you really should not be commenting on it.
Fri Oct 1 2004 6:56 PM
"When you start to put peoples faces in a movie and misrepresent their actualy beliefs"
Fri Oct 1 2004 7:23 PM
"When you start to put peoples faces in a movie and misrepresent their actualy beliefs, I think you head down a dark road regardless of its legality."
Isn't misrepresenting a person's actual beliefs what the republican spin doctors do with Kerry. They take words and move them around and strip them of their supporting context and make them mean what they want them to mean. If you're going to make these sorts of accusations, make sure you cover all alleged offenders.
Fri Oct 1 2004 8:58 PM
Right Wing Robby:
The list would be too long. CBS used forged documents to attackt the president. The New York Times is very very very left leaning and only runs stories that fit there agenda. And Presidential campaign is spin city, this includes John Kerry.
"I believe Johm Kerry would be strong on the war on terror"
Do you know how said that? Bill Oreilly. Statemtns like that arent going to be put in your movie because "muddies" the waters for your entire arguement. There is miles of pro Kerry footage that you are well aware of that would never make your movie. Its cut and paste, its misleading and its wrong.
Apparently the vast majority of liberals and conservatives who watch watch cable think your are wrong to Jim or they would be watching CNN. But guess what Jim, they are watching Fox. People are tired of the NY Times/CNN/CBS bias, so they are changing the channel. Prove me wrong.
Sun Oct 3 2004 7:02 AM
"I believe John Kerry would be strong on the war on terror"
That's it? Only in the twisted universe of Fox News would this be considered balance. It's clearly labeled as opinion with the term "believe."
Here are the hard facts, in a study just released this week..
Howard Kurtz summarized on Monday:
"If you were watching the network evening news in June, July and August, you would have seen somewhat favorable coverage of John Kerry -- six out of 10 evaluations were positive -- and somewhat unfavorable coverage of President Bush.
"If you were watching Fox News Channel's 6 p.m. newscast, you would have seen about the same coverage of the president. But Kerry's evaluations were negative by a 5 to 1 margin."
and here's the press release of the study itself, conducted by Center for Media and Public Affairs
Sun Oct 3 2004 11:56 AM
correction: The study came out on Sept. 9th, the Kurtz piece came out this week.
Sun Oct 3 2004 12:01 PM
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid Jim long enough to realize that your Jihad against FNC is wrong. Who cares about Howard Kurtz's study? Can you guarantee this guy is unbiased (answer of course is no)? You mentioned that the coverage on Bush was the same and the coverage on Kerry is negative 5 to 1. Maybe it's because Kerry has a lot of negative that the other networks are conveniently leaving off the air. Well, that's probably an exaggeration, but the "study" you pointed to probably is, too. A recent study shows that INDEPENDENTS chose FNC at a margin of 2 TO 1 to ALL THE OTHER CABLE NEWS CHANNELS COMBINED!!! I may not always agree with Right Wing Robby (I'm independent and he's obviously a right winger) but I have to agree with him here...FNC is the ONLY place (on TV) to go for a non-liberal-prism view of the news and the non-Kool-Aid people KNOW that.
Mon Oct 4 2004 1:34 PM
If every other news outlet is biased, then why should we believe that FNC isn't? If I watch FNC and find it to be biased toward republicans, does that mean I'm "drinking the kool-aid"? Or does that mean FNC just might be biased toward republicans.
You seem to fervently believe that FNC is unbiased in it's content, yet you maintain that most other news outlets are biased toward liberals. Is it not possible that it is you who is "drinking the kool-aid"?
The truth is if we buy into much of anything from the cable news networks, regardless of which one, then we're all drinking a little bit of the ol' kool-aid.
Mon Oct 4 2004 1:49 PM
Abel: Good points Abel. I think most independents would say that FNC is the least biased of the news channels though depending on which personality you're staring at depends on what you're going to get. Obviously Hannity is drinking from the red Kool-Aid bucket along with Tony Snow. Brit is a fair guy, but his panel obviously has people drinking from red and blue buckets. O'reilly goes left or right depending on each issue (as a true independent must). Alan is liberal, but he's certainly not an idealogue so that's some good balance. Besides, if FNC was a right-wing cheerleader channel then why would independents flock to it like they do? Why would we go from drinking blue Kool-Aid to red when we could just turn off the TV and get the truth on the internet? The proof of FNC is derived by it's audience...the independents love it, therefore it must be independent.
Tue Oct 5 2004 9:04 AM
Fair enough, Kain. However, I am an independent and don't watch FNC, nor do I watch CNN. And if I did I would only be interesting in the actual news, not the panels or commentary. News is one thing, folks giving there opinion is no more valuable than me getting it right here, since there seems to be a mix of righties and lefties.
One thing, though, I think the red kool-aid should be for the liberals and the blue for the conservatives, I think that matches the traditional colors for the groups. Nitpicky, sure, but that's why I here.
Tue Oct 5 2004 9:16 AM
Can you please produce this study Kain? I'm not aware of it. The last I heard was this Pew study from January.
It lists by party where people get their campaign news from. They were allowed to pick more than one.
newspapers - 38-43-36 (R-D-I)
broadcast - 24-40-30
cnn - 20-27-20
fnc - 29-14-17
radio - 20-12-13
internet - 11-12-16
So CNN beats FNC in independents 20-17. FNC is overwhelmingly favored by Reps and CNN, somewhat less so, by Dems.
Tue Oct 5 2004 9:18 AM