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Hating Valerie Plame: The New Right-Wing Sport

July 13, 2005 11:24 PM

Larry Johnson, one of the former CIA operatives in Uncovered, and a former analyst on Fox News rips apart the right-wing partisan hack jobs that are smearing Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame:


Valerie Plame was a classmate of mine from the day she started with the CIA. I entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985. All of my classmates were undercover--in other words, we told our family and friends that we were working for other overt U.S. Government agencies. We had official cover. That means we had a black passport--i.e., a diplomatic passport. If we were caught overseas engaged in espionage activity the black passport was a get out of jail free card.

A few of my classmates, and Valerie was one of these, became a non-official cover officer. That meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed.


And since *everyone* seems to be forgetting. Joe Wilson was not only right about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, and was he the most qualified diplomat to investigate their weapons, he was also the guy who stood up for 60 Americans under threat of execution by Saddam Hussein.

You fucking piece of shit John Gibson and all of your ilk. Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame both risked everything for this country...You are the smear merchants "Hating America".

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Read the 17 comments.

Right Wing Robby:

I thought people who risked everything for this country called nazis.

If you care so much Jim, were you when our risk takers where being smeared by democrats? Being called Nazi's? I didnt read any outrage. In fact all I saw was defense of Durbin on this site. But one thing is for sure, you didnt care last week. I wonder why the change? I think we all know.

Thu Jul 14 2005 7:15 AM


Dave E.:

Wingnuts possess a bizarre ability to generalize to their liking (see above).

It's an acumen for molding generalities to their liking, with total disregard for context. They can convince themselves of anything while casually dismissing substantiated positions that run counter to their caustic dogma.

Some may even call it sociopathic.

Thu Jul 14 2005 6:57 PM


Dave E.:

BTW...here's a WaPo article detailing the possible scope of the damage caused by Rove's outing not only Plame, but the CIA front company of Brewster-Jennings & Associates:

"once Plame's job as an undercover operative was revealed, other agency secrets could be unraveled and her sources might be compromised or endangered.
[...]
every foreign intelligence service would run Plame's name through its databases within hours of its publication to determine if she had visited their country and to reconstruct her activities.

"That's why the agency is so sensitive about just publishing her name," the former diplomat said."

All for partisan gain. At best, scum. At worst, traitors. And just how the F is Novak not making big rocks into small rocks? Judith Miller gets sent up before this old curmudgeon? Scandalous!

Daily Kos diary with more articles + comments:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/14/125141/367

Hope Jim's cool with me linking to Daily Kos!

Thu Jul 14 2005 8:30 PM


Anonymous:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/14/wbr.01.html

"Wolf Blitzer: But the other argument that's been made against you is that you've sought to capitalize on this extravaganza, having that photo shoot with your wife, who was a clandestine officer of the CIA, and that you've tried to enrich yourself writing this book and all of that.

What do you make of those accusations, which are serious accusations, as you know, that have been leveled against you.


Joe Wilson: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."


So was Wilson lying again?

Fri Jul 15 2005 2:43 PM


Dave E.:

Meanwhile...back in reality land, just a couple sentences later in this damning transcript provided by the messenger of truth, anony-doofus...

"WILSON:[...]the CIA believed that a possible crime had been committed, and that's why they referred it to the Justice Department."

Oh, yeah...the CIA was the driving force behind fueling this investigation, not Wilson. But anony-doofus knows the legalities better than that dinky little outfit, clearly.

Thanks for clearing things up.

Fri Jul 15 2005 10:26 PM


Dave E.:

Clearing things up permanently. Wilson's statement has been horribly misconstrued. Admittedly, it's a little ambiguous and understandably easy to misread.

What was meant by Wilson, and has since been CORRECTED by the AP in its reporting of the CNN interview, was that she stopped being a covert agent the second Novak blew her cover. Read his statement again...it was said 'matter of factly'.

"Wilson also said "my wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."

In an interview Friday, Wilson said his comment was meant to reflect that his wife lost her ability to be a covert agent because of the leak, not that she had stopped working for the CIA beforehand.

Though the AP ran a correction, other news outlets had already repeated its mistake. CNN's Ed Henry told viewers that "Wilson himself suggested that she was not undercover." The Drudge Report link to the AP story suggested the same thing, and numerous other news outlets picked up the AP article."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200507150003

Sorry anony-doofus. Foiled again.

Fri Jul 15 2005 10:47 PM


Anonymous:

Media Matters. LOL.

Sat Jul 16 2005 12:24 PM


NJGuardsman:

“Sorry anony-doofus. Foiled again.” – Is that all you can say?

You people have spent the last few weeks SLANDERING someone, destroying a man’s reputation, defiling his character. What you people did was the same as a lynch mob, you tried to lynch Karl Rove and why because he has an ideology you don’t agree with. And all you people can say is “OOPS”? because your reasons went down the toilet? You have contributed to the attempted destruction of a man’s life And for what, what has this “get Bush at all costs” attitude gotten you?

And I.m holding the Republicans feet to the fire, they should be all over this and they’re not “we don’t stoop to those levels”

The left’s attacks have gone far beyond being political, they’re now personal and FULL of HATE just plain HATE. You hate the fact you lost the election in 2000, you hate the fact that 9/11 didn’t happen during a Democrat administration, you hate the fact that you lost the Presidency again in 2004 and lost power in the senate. And each loss only makes your side more desperate and willing to do anything, true or untrue you can because just you hate Bush

“Frogmarch his ass!” – Frog march Who? Why? If he’s (Rove) not guilty of this he’s guilty of something else? Isn’t this what you rant about the right doing?
Why don’t you frogmarch those who have whipped your side into a frenzy.

If I’m not mistaken, this is the THIRD TIME the left has acted on FALSE information.

Your side’s attitude and how it attack’s the right is one of the most important reasons you continue to lose elections – another is assuming the American people are stupid!

BIG HINT!!!! The vast majority of people in America are CONSERVATIVE you don’t have to like it that’s just the way it is.

Talk about being lead around like mind-numbed robots.


Someone told me this and I finally believe it: the difference between NYC & DC:
NYC is tough, DC is mean
-New York will fight you for every penny but at the end of the day, you’ll all go out to dinner.
-DC will give you everything you want BUT when you turn around they’ll shoot you in the back because it’s fun to watch you die

I’ll keep it PG for now, you all should be ashamed of yourselves.

Look at these links and see who deserves to be “frogmarched”. These articles are of a (not so secret anymore) satellite program that was helping to track OBL thru his satellite phone BUT thanks to Durbin & Co. announcing it to anyone willing to listen OBL found out.

Thanks a lot Dems, I wonder how many soldiers live this will cost.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/059535.php

http://cshink.com/justice_asked_to_probe.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/041213-leak-probe.htm

Sun Jul 17 2005 12:30 PM


Dave E.:

Ahh, NJ.

First of all, maybe you should think about collecting yourself before you start writing. You appear to be the one 'whipped into a frenzy'. Half of your post reads like gobbledeygook. Coherence is usually a plus when trying to make a point.

Now. Karl Rove's specialty is slandering, reputation destruction, and character defiling. Rove is the svengali of lies and smears for political gain. I say that only in case you were concerned your double-standard would be highlighted in bright neon.

No need to dignify all your neurotic hate suspicions because they're pretty laughable.

Unless you consider grand jury testimony an instrument of disinformation, I'm not sure where you're getting your accusations of 'falsehoods' from. (Well. I take that back.) This is a matter of a real breach of actual national security. But apparently national security is of no concern to partisans. Shame on YOU, amigo.

And I'd love to see some research supporting your sweeping 'vast majority' claim. Otherwise, it's nothing more than opinion dressed up as fact. Vintage wingnut. Free reign to paint your own view of reality. Something we see alot of from people whipped into a frenzy, as you like to call it.

Also, thanks for the lovely non sequitur about NYC and DC. Duly noted.

"Your side’s attitude and how it attack’s the right is one of the most important reasons you continue to lose elections – another is assuming the American people are stupid!"

Well...I certainly wouldn't accuse anyone who made this statement of being too smart, that's for sure. Obviously, you haven't been paying attention to how the radical right has divided the country by attacking and demonizing liberals. On the surface, this has been overt for the last 5 years. But the fact is, radical conservative think tanks, radio programming and so-called 'family' organizations have been working on this division since Nixon was humiliated. Something to the tune of 300 million dollars a year poured into the machine. Do you seriously believe the attacking comes from the left? "How it attacks the right" That's a joke right? There isn't enough room on this BLOG to document the slander of liberals peddled by wingers.

Finally, this exercise in perspective has been used before, but it's a good illustration of where most of the HATE comes from. Imagine if this happened in a democrat's White House? The impeachment would probably be over by now.

Sun Jul 17 2005 1:40 PM


Tom from Madison:

Right on Dave E!

This country depends on people of every opinion speaking their minds.

If you're conscience is telling you we are in a bogus war, you need to fight for what's right, NOT SHUT UP AND LET THE LIARS RUIN THE COUNTRY!

Neo-cons have put loyalty before truth. They are responsible for the loss of life in Iraq. How pathetic to be blaming others for their own lies and mis-calculations!

Mon Jul 18 2005 10:56 AM


jonathan:

i half expected NJ to blurt out the ultimate deflection-'it's clinton's fault' (tm).

Mon Jul 18 2005 11:04 AM


NJGuardsman:

– I am not a writer nor did I think I had to be to post blogs on this site.

– Your personal attacks on me not withstanding, I am SPECIFICALLY Speaking of the Karl Rove issue, of the actions being done to him, of the “high tech lynching” of Karl Rove being attempted by the left, all in the hope of getting to Bush.

- For the third time, you people have gone off half-cocked forwarding false information as though it was gospel! You’re not even waiting for the end of the investigation!

Lets just say KR is guilty of what you accuse him of (slandering, character assassination so on) does that make him guilty of this?

Since when are you so concerned with national security anyway, you gave Sandy Berger a pass.


- Let me put my comments into terms you (and the rest of you libs) could understand; You lied, you helped perpetuate a lie, you and the rest of the left lied to include the press - lied to the American people, and are guilty of joining the: “If you repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth” crowd.

The American people are taking notes, they’ll remember how many times you shoot something up the flag pole only to see it drop back on top of you like a ton of bricks.


Mon Jul 18 2005 11:39 AM


Tom from Madison:

NJ,

your eloquence isn't in question, it's your blind loyalty.

If Karl Rove's bag of dirty tricks includes outing CIA agents, we need to find out and bring him to justice.

Right now there's enough smoke to investigate where it's coming from. If there's a fire we need to put it out. I haven't convicted him, but you seem to have exonerated him. The issue isn't slander, it's TREASON. Kal Rove is not above investigation and is not above the law.

"...with liberty and justice for all." is more than just a slogan. In America we should all support the rule of law. Despite Rove's and Bush's attempts to the contrary, we still have a functioning judiciary. I say let's all be good Americans and let them do their jobs!

Mon Jul 18 2005 12:33 PM


Sponge Bob:

Senator Chuck Schumer who wrote the letter to FBI Director Robert Mueller demanding the investigation.

Here is a copy of Schumer's letter:

http://schumer.senate.gov/Schu...releases/PR01888.html


Wonder why Schumer didn't write a letter demanding an investigation in to CIA "agents" that give their reports to the NY Times?

Good thing we have all these mind readers to report what Wilson meant to say. Otherwise we would be forced to rely upon his own statements, and we all know he's full of shit.

Mon Jul 18 2005 1:06 PM


NJGuardsman:

"...with liberty and justice for all." is more than just a slogan. In America we should all support the rule of law. Despite Rove's and Bush's attempts to the contrary, we still have a functioning judiciary. I say let's all be good Americans and let them do their jobs!

Funny how you say this now and I still hear your side say Bush stole the election in 2000.

“Blind loyalty” take a good look in the mirror, I still have yet to see/hear from any one of you about one Democrat that’s done something wrong/illegal. Guess they’re all clean and pure as the wind driven snow.

You still refuse to even condemn Sandy Berger!

Mon Jul 18 2005 4:34 PM


Tom from Madison:

NJ:

why do you keep changing the subject? What happened in 2000 is simply not relevant. Whether Bush did or didn't "steal the 2000" election has no bearing on the sleaze factor and possible criminal activity in Bush's Whitehouse.

Bush is showing what a WEAK LEADER HE REALLY IS RIGHT NOW. He doesn't need to wait for an official investigation to get the facts on Rove. He could simply ask him and other staffers what happened. If he's already done this he could say what he knows to be true--i.e. level with the American people.

Instead, he's hiding and hoping--hoping this issue will go away.

It won't! Bush continues to bring shame on his office. His combination of arrogance of power and cowardice are shameful and disgraceful.

Wed Jul 20 2005 10:35 AM


Lug:

You lefties and Joe Wilson are the fucking lying pieces of shit!!!!!

Mon Jan 2 2006 11:24 PM


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