From Jim Gilliam's blog archives
O'Reilly lies while talking about his lies
September 10, 2005 2:52 PM
I love it when the News Hounds get under O'Reilly's skin... Here's what he said Thursday night: "The absolute bottom of the barrel are the crazy websites. One far-left blog says quote 'Desperate to take the heat off Bush, O'Reilly blames the poor in Hurricane Katrina.'"
But the actual post was called "Desperate to Take Heat Off Bush, O'Reilly Lies and Blames the Poor."
O'Reilly lies while talking about his lies
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Read the 23 comments.
I've always found your obsession with O'Riely rather amusing... The guy misspeaks and you can't help but try to rip him to shreds for it!
There's plenty of O'Riely CONENT that you could comment on without trying to take petty shots like this, sheesh...
Sat Sep 10 2005 11:58 PM
That's hardly ripping him to shreds, I'd say, and hardly "misspeaking". Didn't he claim to have "misspoken" when he said he won a Peabody award?
It's just good clean fun, calling him on his lies.
Sun Sep 11 2005 12:11 AM
It's almost a sport at this point. He's so completely paranoid and obsessed with people like the News Hounds and MoveOn. He's a horrible person who wouldn't be worth spending a second on if it wasn't for the fact that he has a really big megaphone. So we just keep poking at him.
Sun Sep 11 2005 2:12 AM
"He's a horrible person who wouldn't be worth spending a second on if it wasn't for the fact that...I have made money off of him"
might be a more accurate sentence, no?
Mon Sep 12 2005 10:44 AM
You have no idea how wrong you are. I was going to tell you exactly how wrong, but that's none of your business.
Mon Sep 12 2005 4:53 PM
Even though I'm an official member of the VRWC, I've never really liked O'Rielly. I just think it's petty to poke at him all the time... but hey, it's your blog, not mine...
Maybe the reason I don't like him is cause I've never seen his TV show, which is how he started, no? I've only ever listened to his radio show and it is absolutley terrible! He's no Limbaugh, for sure....
Mon Sep 12 2005 8:14 PM
Tom from Madison:
To gain a full appreciation for the dis-service to the truth done by O'Reilly or Limbaugh, you need to listen to them for a period of time--if you have the stomach for it.
Both of these very wealthy pundits have built their careers around generating propaganda. Every single day they try to inflame their base by spreading lies about people with whom they disagree. Some days they tell little lies, some days they tell BIG ONES. But they always lie.
In the process, they've established a coalition of the rich, the willfully ignorant, unashamed racists, and war mongers. They've all agreed to keep burning liberals in effigy and in absentia.
What they won't do is engage in legitimate debate in a forum they can't control. Ultimately they are weak bullies. Study their personal lives if you need corroboration.
Yes there are conservatives who legitimately seek the truth, but not Limbaugh and O'Reilly. They deliberately lie in service to their own agendas every time they're on the air.
...back to the point about being petty. I don't see how demanding that broadcasters reaching millions of viewers speak the truth can possibly be petty.
Tue Sep 13 2005 12:00 AM
And Tom -again-wants to make it an issue of:
"You conservatives are all brainwashed - you can't tell the difference between a lie and the truth. We progressives are much more astute than you plebian hayseeds."
Come on - the condescension and arrogance that drips from a statement like:
" In the process, they've established a coalition of the rich, the willfully ignorant, unashamed racists, and war mongers. They've all agreed to keep burning liberals in effigy and in absentia.. "
is just incredible.
That's how you see anybody who listens to Limbaugh or Hannity? As a racist or a warmonger?
Come on down off your high horse, TFM...
Tue Sep 13 2005 10:59 AM
Tom from Madison:
I'm not sure where your first quote came from. Did you make it up? In any event it doesn't represent my opinion.
As for my comment about Rush's core, it should be obvious. I'm simply breaking down Rush's audience by some common themes. No, not all of Rush's listeners have all the attributes listed, but his ratings would fall apart if the groups identified left. Ditto for O'Reilly.
1) A lot of rich people support conservatives just because Bush keeps giving them a tax cut every year no matter what. The super rich are getting very wealthy while much of the rest of the population sinks into deep debt. Even in time of war, we're demanding no financial sacrifice from rich people. In fact, we're giving them investment opportunities by privatizing military functions [see below.]
2) The willfully ignorant includes those who deny science when it's convenent. They choose to ignore inconvenient facts like global warming, the benefits of stem cell research, or the non-existence of WMDs. There are MANY other examples.
3) Rush himself frequently appeals to race baiting. That's what got him booted from ESPN footbal pre-game show-remember the McNabb comment.? Rush is pulling the same thing with Katrina, claiming liberals actually celebrated it--that's a ridiculous claim to make!
4) a lot of Rush fans are war mongering *investors* e.g., those making money from Haliburton. They have a VESTED INTEREST IN A PROLONGED IRAQI WAR.
I'm not on a high horse. But I know hate speech when I hear it. Rush is a sick man in many ways. I prefer hate-free, drug-free radio? Who wouldn't?
Tue Sep 13 2005 3:53 PM
Oh come on, Tom... Come back to reality for a minute here...
1) I support Bush and I am not at all "rich" I make a modest living, but I am no where near the 100k mark. Most people who support Bush are not rich, so get over it...
2)Just because someone disagrees with you on issues like stem-cell research or human-caused global warming does not automatically make them "willfully ignorant". This is an easy way for you to dismiss rational debate, but it makes you appear rather Elitist...
3) Since you obviously have no idea what Rush is all about, he doesnt' mean 1/2 the things he says. He says things that intentionally inflame the Left because it is then that the Left is at it's funniest and shows their true colors... And in regards to McNabb, it was a remark about the media, not McNabb
4)Riiiiiigght.... Got anything to back this up? Cause, you know, I listen to Rush most days and I do not own any part of Halliburton. I don't know anyone who does (and I know a lot of Rush fans). You're just making stuff up...
Tue Sep 13 2005 11:14 PM
"I support Bush and I am not at all "rich""
Well...Tom did say wealthy OR ignorant.
Wed Sep 14 2005 1:25 AM
Tom from Madison:
Hey Moss Man:
You are the one who's ignoring the facts. Most people are much worse off economically now than they were 5 years ago. This is measureable:
1) Energy costs
2) Health care costs
3) Personal Debt
Add to this the crisis in pension programs and the federal deficit. A small number of very rich people have received GIANT tax refunds. The refunds received by most folks were more than eaten up by energy and health care costs.
I didn't say that everyone who listens to Rush or supports Bush is rich. My sense is those who supported Bush before are looking at their bank accounts, the security of the country, and wondering why they voted for this guy. The historically low Presidential approval ratings bear this out.
Wed Sep 14 2005 10:12 AM
Tom from Madison:
Regarding our fighting a privately funded war using huge no-bid contracts awarded to Halliburton. There are many problems associated with THAT:
1) Incentives-my previous point, as long as the war continues, there will be more opportunities for contracts. Peace and a stable Iraq will shut down the gravy train.
2) Conflict of interest. The Cheney's / Halliburton relationship ought to disqualify Cheny from being VP and Halliburton from getting contracts. The interst of the US should not be compromised by Billions of $ controlled by contractors and their former CEOs
3) Taxpayers have been repeated ripped off by fraudulent practices, e.g. overcharging, services NEVER RENDERED, etc.
IT'S NOT JUST HALLIBURTON. Many other contractors are doing the same thing. Lack of oversight of complicance is maximizing return to investors, not service to the taxpayers.
Noting these factis isn't being elitist, it's being responsible with taxpayer $. Supporters of Bush have been WILLFULLY IGNORANT OF THIS KIND OF ABUSE.
Thanks for raising the issue!
Wed Sep 14 2005 10:22 AM
R. A. Felton:
Come on !! You yourself are stretching the truth about comments made by Bill O'Reilly on the poor in New Orleans . He did NOT blame the poor. He indicated that if you are poor, if you are un-educated and poor , if you do not want to pick your self up from poverty , you "MIGHT" find yourself in these type of situations, as people found themselves in the state of LA. . He also stated that one can not rely on the Government to "SAVE YOU" in disasters, that one had to prepare themselves for such emergencies. It is , in fact the truth , and we all can see by your article , YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH !
Fri Oct 7 2005 9:07 AM
R. A. Felton:
OK "TOM" from Madison , you can write the words "LIE" all day long about O'Reilly , BUT, as he requests on his show , SHOW ME THE PROOF !!! I can say you lie, does that make me right ?? Show the lie's , or shut up. What I see in todays media is that "LIE's" flourish , and they come from both sides of the isle. However , that said , I must admit , the B/S from the far left is NAUSEATING at best . Now, before you "jump to conclusions", I am neither Republican , nor am I a Democrat . That should save you a whole paragraph of writing B/S on the comeback .
Fri Oct 7 2005 9:23 AM
I just had an epiphany from what you stated, i.e. not rep or dem.
I'm also not quite a republican but I undeniably, without question, indubitably will NEVER, EVER be a democrat (the enemy within).
Thu Nov 17 2005 2:27 AM
You can talk all about this shit but it doesn't matter, because unless your a rich mother------ you never beable to do anything about anything
Fri Nov 18 2005 11:54 PM
You should seriously try climbing out of the box you live in and taking look around. It always amazes me how you liberals just can't seem to formulate a substantive argument. When comes to intelligent discourse you always fall back on insults, personal attacks, and conspiracy theory. Thank God we have Bill looking out for us!!
Wed Jan 4 2006 6:22 PM
Jason from NJ:
In response to Tom from Madison's reply from Sept 13. I was just browsing through this but I had to chime in on this one point.
"The willfully ignorant includes those who deny science when it's convenent. They choose to ignore inconvenient facts like global warming"
There is no factual basis for global warming and is purely a myth.
"The forces that drive long-term climate change are not known with an accuracy sufficient to define future climate change." Source: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 95, Oct. 1998.
You should also check out Dr. Michael Chricton's speech at this URL also
Thu Jan 5 2006 1:43 PM
Jason from NJ:
The Chrichton speech URL
Thu Jan 5 2006 1:45 PM
I've scanned this page several times and I've yet to see any of the O'Reilly lies in print. Maybe some of you libs can come up with some facts instead of accusations.
Mon Sep 25 2006 9:23 AM
Mike of the Great White North:
Here's a few to chew on Mr. Young. Don't choke.
Canada being bankrupt (i can verify this one)
Claiming to win a Peabody (polk)
Saying he knew for a 'fact' his boycott call against France was working by reading an article from a magazine that does not exist.
And one of my personal faves... just tons of BS while talking about the Jessica Lynch story.
enjoy. get back to me on any of his claims that are factual.
Mon Sep 25 2006 4:37 PM
I am forwarding my message to all of you because there really is no room at the inn for someone who does not "duck step" to you and Soro's tune
It is so interesting to me that all of you backed by Georgy boy have no way for someone to talk back. You have these sleazy little areas but like all left wing sites, if you dis agree then you are either a "Christian Conservative", or a "right wing kook" but there are millions of people in the country who wonder why we let a socialist who is not even a citizen back groups like this one who spew hate as hot and heavy as the KKK ever has.
Yes, I said HATE. Any time there is someone who disagrees you try to smear. For instance, why don't you call out the guy on CNN who just today called an African American "a smiling negro" on the air??? Just because the guy was agreeing with what Bill O'reilly said, Heaven forbid you should castigate someone from your own left.
You make me sick and I am watching you
Wed Sep 26 2007 6:07 PM