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How Many Americans Can George Bush Kill?

July 11, 2006 3:25 PM

It truly seems to be his mission. Kill as many of us as possible.

His first veto of a Congress dominated by his own party will be to block money for stem cell research. Even the damn Republicans want this thing, and he's gonna veto it. Ronald Reagan's widow wants it. The vast majority of Americans want it. Nope, he wants us dead.

UPDATE: Bob Geiger has some background on how this all got on the agenda.

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Right Wing Robby:

Thats a great question. All we need to do is add the 44 million abortions deaths since 1973 to whatever number you come up with to know the total killed legally.

Tue Jul 11 2006 5:14 PM

Dave E.:

Screw the 70% of Americans that want to see a Congress represent them on this issue...gotta keep that fringe christofascist base happy.

Quick, turdblossom! It's an election year! Hit the big red Pander button!

Tue Jul 11 2006 8:59 PM

Tom from Madison:


You're wrong AND off topic here. Abortions have gone UP under Bush not down.

...Dave E is right. We need an up or down vote. Nancy Reagan, Arlen Specter and Orrin Hatch all agree on what should be done with regard to stem cell research.

Tue Jul 11 2006 10:36 PM

Jim Gilliam:


Tue Jul 11 2006 11:28 PM

Right Wing Robby:

Im glad you feel the majority should rule.

When asked whether they thought same-sex "marriages" should be recognized by the law as valid and come with the same rights as traditional marriages, 68 percent of the respondents in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll said they should not.

Hey Tom. Im against abortions. Dont blame a conservative for a law I want stopped. Your the one who supports babies brains being sucked out, not me. So unless you want them stopped, your concern is disjointed from your ideology.

Interesting. In one thread we have pro-abortion Tom complaining abortions are up and minority Dave claiming mob rule.

Tue Jul 11 2006 11:44 PM

Tom from Madison:


How about if you state your position rather than mis-stating mine? I'm not pro-abortion. I'd rather see fewer abortions than more. The way to accomplish this is to prevent unwanted pregnancies and reduce poverty. Bush's policies have none neither.

It simply isn't accurate to refer to fertilized eggs, embryos, and fetuses as babies. It simply isn't the government's business to step in and interfere with my religious convictions.

Wed Jul 12 2006 12:26 AM

Dave E.:

Little robby hasn't said one word about stem cell research at all. Just non sequiturs with every other issue that triggers wingnut hysteria, and twists other posts around to justify his illusory and smarmy indignation.

This thread should be minted forever to show children the dangers of bipolar wingnut disorder.

Parents - don't let it happen to your kids. And for cryin out loud...don't let your kid call himself 'robby' past the age of ten, lest his mind get stuck there forever.

Wed Jul 12 2006 2:55 AM

Right Wing Robby:

The war on pverty wa started by Johnson and after all these great democrat presidents the war hasnt been won. Tom, that the typical knnee jerk blame Bush for everything, do nothing talk that has kept you out of power. We need look no further at the poverty stricken "eden" of New Orleans to find out how democrats do with poverty.

I do have some good news Tom. If you want fewer abortions, then support it being illegal. It abortions are illegal there will be fewer and you will get your wish!

Wed Jul 12 2006 8:29 AM


CNN LARRY KING 1,382,000
FNC GRETA 1,340,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,252,000
FNC HUME 1,197,000
CNN COOPER 1,132,000
CNN DOBBS 823,000

Wed Jul 12 2006 9:37 AM

Tom from Madison:


Remember Bush is the President of the entire United States including New Orleans. Blaming liberals for his own failure to respond is the typical "dog ate my homework" excuse that has followed W through his whole career. This guy is simply a loser who only takes care of his own. More should be expected of the President of the wealthiest, most powerful nation on earth!

After 5+ years of Bush and progressively more Republican rule we have a clear picture of what his policies are doing. A very few very rich people are getting richer. Most people are worse off. We have perpetual war and mounting debt to look forward to. We did much better in the 1990s.

We can and will do better again. However we must choose butter over guns. The size of the US military budget and $ given to corrupt contractors speak volumes about the misplaced priorities of Bush. No wonder most folks feel the country is going in the wrong direction.

Certainly poverty will always be with mankind. However to callously and actively ignore poverty by saying nothing can be done while simultaneously waging an elective, dishonest war is a moral outrage.

The American people realize this. The Republican ship is sinking fast. Conservative principles have already been thrown overboard. The Captain is a fool who knows no leadership other than Cronyism. We can and must do much better for ourselves and for the world.

Wed Jul 12 2006 10:19 AM

Tom from Madison:

Another point:

let's retire the "War" metaphor. We don't need a war on poverty, drugs, terror, etc.

Peace is what we need to envision, plan to attain, and plan to maintain. Americans are in a unique position to lead the world there.

Unfortunately it will take a much bigger man than George Bush to have the strength to work with other nations rather than spending time and effort in pursuit of wealth an empire.

Wed Jul 12 2006 10:25 AM


women don't give a rats ass what your opinions are... just keep them out of our wombs....Kill em by sucking their brians out or a slow death by toxic environment, lack of education, resources and community...
It's OUR choice, and always will be, it's not up for debate.

Thu Jul 13 2006 3:45 AM

Right Wing Robby:

"Indeed, as usual, men and women support legal abortion in roughly equal numbers: 54 percent of men, and 58 percent of women, say it should be legal in all or most cases"

You dont speak for all women, so dont claim you do.

Thu Jul 13 2006 8:09 AM

Tom from Madison:


thanks for speaking up for a minority of men.

Thu Jul 13 2006 12:37 PM


I never claimed to speak for all of us. For or agianst, legal or not it is still the women's choice. It is not up to you to decide, the choice belongs to the individual making it...

Thu Jul 13 2006 9:24 PM

Dave E.:

George W. Bush -- Disgraceful Moron.

"STRALSUND, Germany - With the world's most perplexing problems weighing on him, President Bush has sought comic relief in a certain pig.

This is the wild game boar that German chef Olaf Micheel bagged for Bush and served Thursday evening at a barbecue in Trinwillershagen, a tiny town on the Baltic Sea where the boar chef also serves as second deputy mayor.

"I understand I may have the honor of slicing the pig," Bush said at a news conference earlier in the day punctuated with questions about spreading violence in the Middle East and an intensifying standoff with Iran over nuclear power.

The president's host, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, started a serious ball rolling at this news conference in the 13th century town hall on the cobblestone square of Stralsund. But Bush seemed more focused on "the feast" promised later.

"Thanks for having me," Bush told the chancellor. "I'm looking forward to that pig tonight."


"Apart from the pig, Mr. President, what sort of insights have you been able to gain as regards East Germany?" a German reporter asked the American leader.

"I haven't seen the pig yet," said Bush, sidestepping the question about insights gained from his two-day visit to this rural seaside region that once rested behind the Iron Curtain in a Germany divided between East and West.

And when an American reporter asked Bush whether he is concerned about the Israeli bombing of the Beirut airport and about Iran's failure to respond to an offer for negotiations that the U.S. and European allies have made, Bush replied with more boar jokes before delving into the substance of the questions.

"I thought you were going to ask about the pig," said the president, promising a full report from the barbecue. "I'll tell you about the pig tomorrow."

At a time for serious minds to get to work, Bush remains the petulant little frat boy, even in the face of rapidly worsening Middle Eastern conflagration.

First it was a pet goat with a glazed expression and minutes of inactivity, then it was a flooded American city followed by precious days lost to governmental incompetance from the top down, now it's a bizarre compulsion to crack ceaseless pig jokes during a growing crisis that threatens all-out regional war in the Middle East.

What a complete vacuum of individual leadership qualities.

Why it''s almost as if they want Iran to become implicated. Almost as if such a thing could be viewed as a credible pretext that triggers something sought for for quite some time.

Look for that recruitment age ceiling to be raised again. But no draft, no way. These wars are to be fought by those without 'options' in life. Despicable.

And the great slouch toward Iran quickens...

Thu Jul 13 2006 9:32 PM

Dave E.:

PS - my above comment was OT, I know. Apologies.

Thu Jul 13 2006 9:35 PM


How is Bush's veto killing anyone?
Research is telling us that successful cell therapies are coming from adult cells, not embryonic.

If I'm understanding correctly, and Bush wants to veto federally-funded use of viable (NBC calls them "leftover") embryos from fertility clinics, then W is trying to ensure there is no incentive to prevent fetal life to further cell farming.

Companies are already buying "lines" of cells. How long before they own all types and we're at their mercy for cell therapy (if embryonic C.T. proves effective) as we are for medications?

Wed Jul 19 2006 12:15 PM


"Research is telling us that successful cell therapies are coming from adult cells, not embryonic."

Adult stem cells may produce some therapies, but embryonic stem cells can conceivably produce cures.

Sun Jul 30 2006 4:55 AM


The question is not "How many Americans can Goerge Bush kill" but how many unborn children will be given up to this because it's "inconvenient" to have them!

Sun Jul 30 2006 8:39 PM


Above was mine.

Sun Jul 30 2006 8:39 PM

Scott Mason:

Silly me, I thought the first George Bush was the worst President of the USA............but I was wrong. His son, is not only a complete idiot, but the absolute worst President this country has ever endured. The USA is now the laughing stock of the world because of this baffling bafoon.

He makes me ashamed to be an American.

Thu Aug 3 2006 11:33 AM

J. schaub:

I want to start off by stating I know little about anything. I think you should look at what you are saying...

George Bush is a baffling buffoon...

I believe you give him an excessive amount credit. How much of this do you think is really him. How much of this do you really think is in his control. How much of this do you think was by his doing????

None. This guy was not voted by us. He was hired by corporate America and marketed to the highest position. And when they lost…….they pushed him in anyways.

They hired him for all the reason you hate him. They hired him because he is an idiot… and you would blame him while over looking their astronomical profits. I agree that he might not be the most intelligent guy in the world. You must be as dumb as they knew you were; to fall blind like sheep into the slaughter house they created for you.

I don't agree. I don't agree w/ your views on patriotism. A patriot does not agree to kill his citizens. A patriot does not attack his country.

I don't agree w/ 911. I don't agree w/ Katrina. I don't agree w/ you or anyone who agrees people should die for profit. It's not American. That's not freedom.

I don't agree.

Tue Sep 12 2006 10:47 PM

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