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Looks like Fritz Hollings saw Uncovered

January 3, 2004 9:05 AM

Senator Fritz Hollings of South Carolina:

Howard Dean is right. Saddam wasn't causing anybody any problem. You have some little smart-aleck announcer on television asking, 'Do you think we're better off with Saddam gone?' What else is gone? We have 456 dead; 11,000 maimed for life, and I don't think it was worth it. I had intended to vote against that resolution [giving Bush the authority to wage war against Iraq], but Rummy and Condi Rice and Cheney said you can't wait until the smoking gun is a mushroom cloud. I thought they had some intelligence, that they knew something.

The mushroom cloud reference tips it off... Looks like Fritz Hollings has seen Uncovered.

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"Saddam wasn't causing anybody any problem" unless you happened to be on his "list" and got yourself fed into a plastic grinder. Try throwing that quote around in some Kurdish villages and see what the answer would be.

Reference tips it off...looks like Fritz Hollings has seen Uncovered. Apparently he hasn't been reading the congressional record or listening to his own party. "I thought they had some intelligence, that they knew something" way overestimating the intellegence of the following esteemed members of his party.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to
the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated
the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep - Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

Mon Jan 5 2004 12:42 PM

Time to cut and run:

Why are we still there??? It is time to take a serious look at our involvement there.

Every day there are news reports about more deaths. Every night on the TV there are photos of the death and the destruction. Why are we still there?

The land is too large to secure all of it. The bad people causing this damage can roam anywhere and we cannot possibly police the whole place. Why are we still there?

We occupy the land, which we had to take by force, but it causes us nothing but trouble. Why are we still there?

Their government is unstable and in the process of changing. Why are we still there?

Refugees by the thousands are fleeing, driven from their homes. Why are we still there?

It will cost billions to rebuild, which we cannot afford. Why are we still there?

We cannot even secure the borders! Why are we still there?

And to repeat, Every day we hear of more and more Americans that are being killed in this dangerous land.

It has become and is very clear what our actions must be!

We MUST abandon California!!

Tue Jan 6 2004 12:01 PM


"We've found the weapons of mass destruction. You know, we found biological laboratories . . . . And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong. We found them." -- George W. Bush, Polish Television, May 2003

"An official British investigation into two trailers found in northern Iraq has concluded they are not mobile germ warfare labs, as was claimed by Tony Blair and President George Bush, but were for the production of hydrogen to fill artillery balloons, as the Iraqis have continued to insist. " -- The Observer International, June 2003

-formerly Paul in OC

Tue Jan 6 2004 1:13 PM

Stephen Moore:

Using Hate, Hypocrisy and Insults to attack Dean

The same individuals who awarded Dean one of the highest grades on CATO's Fiscal Report Card on the Governors were also behind the "left-wing freak" TV ad.

The Appeal of Howard Dean
September 15, 2003, Volume 9, Issue 1

"...He left--and I will never forget the nearly hypnotic reaction. The charismatic doctor had made BELIEVERS of several hardened cynics. Nearly everyone agreed that we had finally found A DEMOCRAT WE COULD WORK WITH. Since then, I've watched Dean's career with more than a little interest and we chat from time to time on the phone..."

STEPHEN MOORE is president of the Club for Growth and a senior fellow at the Cato Institute.

Please read the rest of this highly duplicitous and definitely hilarious article by Mr. Moore himself (click on Stephen Moore's name!)

Wed Jan 7 2004 6:00 PM


It is funny and accurate

The state's regulatory climate, says John McClaughry of the Ethan Allen Institute, Vermont's sole dispenser of free-market views, "almost seems intentionally designed to chase employers away." Dean has boasted that he was "the most fiscally conservative governor in Vermont in decades," but that's like saying you were the most chaste woman in a Texas whorehouse.

Thu Jan 8 2004 8:01 AM



Bush must be driving you up the wall, with the massive increase in government these past few years. You must be literally tearing your hair out. Do you think anyone, even Dean, could grow government as quickly as Bush has?

Thu Jan 8 2004 2:20 PM


Thats why I have said I would vote for Leiberman if he won the democratic nomination. Dean would expand government so fast Bush II would look like Reagan in comparison, or the most chaste woman in a Texas whorehouse.

Think about it, how expensive would nationalized health care be? Best quote "Think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free".

Fri Jan 9 2004 9:51 AM


How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
Yes, 'n' how many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, 'n' how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
Yes, 'n' how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, 'n' how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea?
Yes, 'n' how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

Bob Dylan

Tue Sep 7 2004 12:41 AM


im doing a project and i looked under pictures of biological weapons and ended up with no pictures. An idea i have is sketching pictures so people like me doing posters for school on this subject give the kids there presenting to an idea of what a biological weapon looks like. This would educate me more on what they look like and others.

Sat Jan 1 2005 2:47 PM


cut and runner, i'm an election too late and then some, but feel free to leave california be any time. we're better off without red state tax leeches anyway.

Fri Jul 29 2005 8:41 AM

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