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O'Reilly attacks NY Times over Outfoxed

July 20, 2004 7:34 PM

Apparently, Bill O'Reilly is too chicken to take on Robert Greenwald, and instead is picking a fight with the New York Times over its coverage of Outfoxed:

I am issuing this challenge directly to the New York Times. I will debate any Times editor or columnist on the Charlie Rose PBS program. ... I'm calling these sleazy guys out. You think they'll show up?

He then went on to trash today's review saying it "gleefully attacked FNC, using the distorted work of an ultra-liberal filmmaker," and that the Times is "legitimizing rank propaganda."

Then he lied yet AGAIN about the Glick incident thoroughly documented in Outfoxed.

I made "rank propaganda" ... that's almost as cool as being a "traitor!"

UPDATE: Here's the full transcript.

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What? Your going to actaully listen to Bill O'Reilly - Rupert Murdoch's attack dog/lacky you must be joking. This guy is only one step above such morons as Pat Buchannon.

Wed Jul 28 2004 7:57 AM


Remember when there was a time when we supported our president? That even if we disagreed, we had the right to disagree and we still do. Remember when people went to church on Sundays instead of heading out to amuse themselves? Of course you don't because you idiots have no morals any more and want to flush this country even further into the immoral cesspool that Clinton managed to do by getting an other Dem into the White House.

Tue Aug 3 2004 6:54 PM


Immoral Cesspool? Puh-LEEZE. I don't give a crap if Clinton got his d*** sucked - neither did most of the world. That was a weakness, and it was human. Also HUMAN? The positive things he did for our relations with other countries, the environment, the economy. Clinton was HUMAN.

Just like John Kerry is human. Everyone runs around talking about how Kerry changes his mind about his stance on things... yeah, because he votes FOR something that's a good idea, then votes AGAINST the bastardized version of it when the government's through messing with it.

Bush? Not human. He's a politicking machine. He's an immature brat who would do just about anything to make his daddy proud. The world perceives us as a reflection of our President, because "we" voted for him... America chose him (well, that's what he wants us to believe anyway. You bet that election was fixed!). So if Bush runs around acting like a spoiled rich kid who only cares about daddy's personal pride in him and the almighty dollar, that's how other countries see us. It's no wonder all the good that Clinton did is now undone. Bush is an irresponsible jackass.

Did the rest of the world really care that Clinton was "pleasured" in the Oval Office? Hell, no. Our allies in Europe aren't nearly as Puritanical and uptight as we pretend to be. Immoral Cesspool? What's MORE immoral? Having an extramarital affair (erm, have YOU ever cheated on anyone "Donald"??) or putting MILLIONS of lives, the environment and our livelihoods at risk with Bush's selfish, immature, deceitful ways? Doesn't sound like you supported Clinton much, buddy.

"Remember when there was a time when the country wasn't back in the RED, when the environment was a priority and when people in the world actually had good feelings about America... including Americans?"

Wed Aug 4 2004 7:40 AM


Oh Donald. Silly silly boy. You apparently lack the intellectual fortitude to realize that our nation is in a sorry state these days thanks to the IMMORAL people squatting in the White House.
War for profit-war based on lies-dead soldiers, innocent men, women and THAT's immoral.
History bears out the human condition and all its frailties. Clinton was a scallywag, but an excellent administrator. People such as he are remembered throughout history for their good deeds to their nation and the world. pResident Bush, on the other hand, will undoubtedly go down in history as one of the most mentally flawed, weak-minded and corrupt leaders we have ever experienced.
The parallels between Germany circa 1930 and the novel '1984' are disturbing enough, but may I suggest you begin researching historical data and discover these parallels yourself? If you are capable of putting down the remote and actually using your head for more than a hat rack.

Thu Aug 5 2004 6:19 AM


You got it wrong, we aren't paralleling 1984, we are paralleling Brave New World... The difference? We're getting subverted, not oppressed.

Fri Aug 6 2004 8:19 PM


It is true that “terrorism” is a scary thing, but you know what? We ARE all going to die. Somewhere, somehow, sometime. All of us. That IS a flat-out truth. The question is, and the crux of THIS election in this country, is “HOW ARE WE WILLING TO LIVE?” How much of the following sounds familiar?
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Free Inquiry Magazine / Spring 2003

Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14 things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The article is titled 'Fascism Anyone?', and appears in Free Inquiry's Spring 2003 issue on page 20.

The 14 characteristics are:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need". The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
1o. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

-------For important definitions of forms of government, texts of our countries most important documents--Dictionary of Government Structures: Republic | Democracy | Fascism  Theocracy | Marxism | Socialism  Dictatorship | Monarchy;The Constitution of the United States of America; The Bill of Rights; The Amendments; The Star Spangled Banner;The Pledge of Allegiance --- go to


Sat Aug 7 2004 2:41 PM


You certainly are expressing your 1st Amendment right of free speech. I applaud you of that.

As the saying goes, I may not agree with everything in your blog, but I will certainly die to protect your right to say it.

As to the election and Bush vs. Kerry, it is interesting how divisive this election has become. How divided America has become - with roughly 50% in each camp. I am sure there is some truth on each side. I just hope whoever wins in November we can all get along afterwards. Whoever wins, let's quit the bickering and support our leader.

Sun Aug 8 2004 8:57 PM

Baba O'Really:

Richard Nixon wrote that no history should be written, read, or trusted unless it is 50 years old. Only the perspective of time will approach some sort of truth. We may indeed look back fifty years from now as a watershed election year. A zealous minority will exert their will over America and what it can of the world, or the forces of tolerance and debate will prevail. We should already look back four to five years and say "How the hell did this happen?"

Mon Aug 9 2004 12:02 PM

Ton Pain:

One thing is certain: no matter how unsavory, no matter the desire not to contribute to the downward spiral, moderates, liberals, and all anti-Bushites have to be ready to combat the viciousness of the Right and their propoganda machine. Let's find all of Dubya's coke head friends, national guard mates, and his former girlfriends -- if they can attack Kerry's war record, using surrogates or not, then it's open season. He said he's the War President. I don't doubt for a second that he's up for every counterattack.

Mon Aug 9 2004 12:10 PM


Whoever wins, let's quit the bickering and support our leader.

No. That's the beauty of America. Our OBLIGATION is to question EVERTHING our government does. WE THE PEOPLE grant these people the power to make these decisions. WE are the ones responsible for their actions. We should be holding their feet to the fire over all of this and 1/2 of us are blindly loyal to them and the other 1/2 hates them. America is middle of the road. we are NOT extremists, but, propaganda is turning us into extremists.

Tue Aug 10 2004 6:36 PM


I do not understand, and never have, why the Democrats in general do not attack their opponents when they have the ammo to do so. Mr. Kerry has plenty of ammunition that he could use against Bush, yet he is not using it! Meanwhile, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, along with their cohorts, are not in the least hesitant to use whatever they can to smear Kerry. I mean, politics is a rough game. People have a tendency to believe the guy who speaks up the loudest and most repetitively. Mr. Kerry better get down to it if he has any hope of winning, because Bush is definitely going to keep these tactics up right until November 2.

Fri Aug 13 2004 4:25 AM

buck fush:

Yeah, all that and then some.

Gas is too cheap.

Mon Aug 16 2004 11:40 PM

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